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<-- was 13-14 when she became acquainted with Shadow/Zack. Is 24 now. (edited)

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My biggest issue is that schizophrenia doesn't start to show on average until early adulthood

1:27 AM

starting with tulpamancy is fuel for the fire should that sort of thing happen, and can be a very strong source of someone explaining away mental illness. I think you need a good stable baseline of maturity before you make a tulpa, and people who were twelve only two years ago are not such people.

1:29 AM

14 is one year old than the minimum legal age for people to even be on the internet/registered on forums. (edited)

Well, I guess I shouldn't even be on the internet lol

1:30 AM

thanks for the information though.

[Aside from the responsibility of having a Tulpa, there's an emotional cost- going through the process of changing your life and in the process getting to really know yourself can be rough, and adding the life of a 14 year old on top of that can be distressing.]

yeah that's understandable.

[If you are interested in Tulpas, feel free to hang out and ask questions. I don't think there's a problem with getting more information.]

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What if I told you

1:56 AM

The information might drive you mad

[Honestly, nothing is scarier than the imagination itself.]

It's been a fairly rough ride for my host, actually taking time to look at himself and his life

[I know I have a lot of self-improvement to do, but I promise it gets better.]

I'm disappointed

@Kyothulu That's helluva hella helluva lots of information

The right answer would be something like "well yea going mad is kinda the point"

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[Part of the self-improvement journey was learning that I was autistic...]

2:15 AM

["Right Answers" are something I naturally don't understand lol]

Apollo Felight's guide about personality is more human than FAQ's ones lol

yep

[We can't give you too much info on the "intentional creation" process. I found Tulpa.info after Ranger showed signs he was a Tulpa.]

2:21 AM

[Do you have a link to that guide? I wouldn't mind checking it out.]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T-EMyglxoV1V7srVyoCPBBWpk-vUXxm_1meDjnnFKTQ/edit

Tulpas: Creation, Sentience, and Vocality (Guide)

Tulpas: Creation, Sentience, and Vocality By Piano Felight i. Foreword Purpose The purpose of this guide is to lay out advice, tips, and general instructions to new hosts for their endeavor to create their first sentient, vocal tulpa, in such a way that will be helpful to ...

2:24 AM

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We skimmed the guide, so we haven't read all of it, but I'm curious about the resistance part under section 5... (edited)

It's something we experienced, where the tulpa would resist any attempted changes made to their form by the host, or resist parroting/puppeting, etc

2:30 AM

It's kind of a funny story

2:30 AM

when I was a little baby tulpa I wore a Santa hat, and I fully resisted my host's attempts to take it off of me

@Rexerage I haven't told anybody here this, but I am 14 and I have had a tulpa for 2 months and I am tired of people getting turned away from tulpamancy because other people think they are too young

so that's where we got the inspiration for that point

2:31 AM

The other people think they are too young for good reason

2:31 AM

it's a huge responsibility that shouldn't be treated like fun and games

2:31 AM

tulpamancy most certainly isn't for everyone

2:31 AM

it is a lifelong commitment and not everyone is ready for that, especially not someone who likely hasn't figured themselves out yet, fully

No it shouldn't be, but it isn't right to assume others maturity based on their age, only they can know weather or not they Ready

Adolescence is a time for personal growth into an adult, adding a tulpa onto that makes things more difficult and stressful

2:32 AM

since you have to worry about their needs on top of your own

You always have to do that

You're quite mature for your age, Breloo.

yeah, i understand both sides.

I thought you were much older.

When you are a kid you have school, when you are an adult you have a job, the only time when it is reasonable to have a tulpa is when you are retired

Oh okay.. the santa story certainty makes that cute... the way I originally interpreted it made my stomach flip.

When you are an adult you are most likely fully mature and have your life figured out, you know who you are and what you want to do

You stomach flipped? Oh boy, that must have been dangerous!

2:34 AM

lol

Many adults don't have their life figured out, and many kids do

I agree with Breloo on the front of age/tulpas; Age, by no means, dictates maturity or how you deal with shit tossed your way

Just because you have had an experience with age and maturity doesn't mean it is universal

yeah i agree on both sides

And I could be wrong, but I need to say this because nobody else has

Age is a solid and well tested proxy for maturity.

Anyone can say they are mature for their age. That doesn't mean they're ready for a tulpa. I take tulpas incredibly seriously, I don't think just anyone can go into it.

I agree

>fully mature oh god lol

2:36 AM

that's the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time

really hilarious lol

you may know that you're mature for your age, but there's a ton of people out there that think they're also mature for their age, and many of them are not

You must look into your self and see weather or not you are ready to do this

It's probably a safe assumption to assume an age limit, not necessarily because the age limit is gospel, but rather it shows as a warning that Tulpae aren't all fun and games...

And if you really look critically you are probably the best one to say weather or not you are ready

2:37 AM

And I'm not saying that I am mature for my age

Maturity consists of both being able to keep yourself steady in life, and then handling what shit comes your way... a fair number of people we've run into handle things better than the adults we've been around; but this doesn't mean that all 14-year-olds should go running into tulpamancy blindly without considering anything I feel that rather than simply telling people off for their age, they should be informed/taught about consequences... this server has been really good with that from the time I've been here

lol im a beginner so i cant give opinions yet but i agree on both

Of course, I don't think that anybody is arguring about weather or not everyone should make a tulpa

The ban on driving until you turn 16, and then restrictions until 18, are there for good reason. It is not unreasonable bias on the part of society to create those bans, and it would be absurd if a "very mature" kid under the age of 18 suggested they should be able to drive a car down a highway.

Well part of that is due to the hight of being old

yes of course

...height?

There are other factors that weigh in with being able to drive beyond being mature and not deciding to slam your car into someone else

You have to be tall enough to reach the pettles

there's no height test when getting a license

2:40 AM

i didnt want to do it when i saw that pinkie pie tulpa story when i was 10

2:40 AM

i probably shit my bed that night

it's mostly not. Young people do get into far more car accidents on average.

2:41 AM

of course, some middle-aged people are terrible drivers too.

2:41 AM

The hard limit is set because it's the easiest, fairest, most societally convenient way of doing it.

2:41 AM

In theory there are other requirements for getting a license, too, although in the US they're quite easy. We haven't really created a useful "maturity test" yet, though.

2:42 AM

the fact is, in most places almost everyone needs a car at some point to get to work, so it's hard to set any limit other than age.

With driving, a lot of the relation to age is with one's ability to make informed decisions The same thing is with tulpamancy, but I feel that being able to know and comprehend the consequences of creating a tulpa is a bit lower down on the ladder than being in gridlock or being able to not cut around someone out of frustration

2:42 AM

^my two cents

Cars, alcohol, the ability to sign legal documents, joining the military, buying cigarettes, and so on, are other examples

We have the libraty to talk to people and make sure that they understand that they must look at their maturity without ego, and if they can't do that then they arnt ready to make a tulap

basically anything that has the ability to be destructive to yourself, or those around you, tends to be age restricted.

Alcohol is also because of how it works on the developing brain

Alcohol and cigarettes are age-restricted on more than decision-making; impacts on a developing body are also included there

Tulpamancy may also have a large impact on the development of a person's brain.

And there hasn't been any research on whether it does or not-- I am in strong support of there being so in the future

In Germany they have less strict laws on alcohol, and it results in lower levels of alcohol abuse

2:45 AM

There is no reasearch on the effects of tulpamancy on developing brains, or any brains, so it hardly matters (edited)

We do not know, and with that lack of knowledge there are risks. Not only of that, but when encouraging those who are young to join this community, we encourage those who are in their formative years, at their point of being most susceptible to suggestion, to join a community filled, very frequently, with those who will take to manipulating others.

It definitely matters, Breloo If we don't know it would be best to take the more cautious route, but to each to their own as far as the risks they are willing to take

It is ultimately up to the individual to do what feels best to them.

We should not encourage them, we should simply not discourage them

Inform them with as little bias as possible (hehe, funny joke)

I do believe we should discourage them.

If it is best to take the most cautious rute then we should all not do tulpamancy because we don't know the effects of it on any brain